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Re: Uninsured people...

txag007 — Thu, 18 Mar 2010 02:55:58 GMT

The recent GOP fabrication about the New England Journal Medicine claim that physicians are so terrified of health care reform that they would leave medicine if passed, is a total myth, compliments of none other than the right wing lying machine.

The use of the phrase "total myth" in the statement above is dangerously close to containing a greater degree of untruthfulness than the O'Reilly clip shown in Libby Shaw's diary. In the clip, O'Reilly's graphic lists the source of the study as "Medicus/New England Journal of Medicine". And yes, he did verbally state that the study was "published in the New England Journal of Medicine..."

But the fact remains that a study was conducted, and the numbers were reported. Inherent in Ms. Shaw's "total myth" statement above is the assumption that because the source was mis-attributed, the entire study is therefore false, and that, of course, isn't the case.

If your "side" is really so concerned about the "problems" in the healthcare bill

jfrankparnell — Thu, 18 Mar 2010 01:49:49 GMT

Maybe they should try a strategy besides sabotage.

And by the way, there is no funding for abortions. Shocking to see R's publicly lying (again). Almost as shocking to see you dutifully regurgitate your spoonfed BS.

Your souces are not credible.

jfrankparnell — Thu, 18 Mar 2010 01:44:46 GMT

Therefore they are ignored.

Go back and read this:
http://www.texaskaos.com/showC...

Re: GOP poll....

txag007 — Wed, 17 Mar 2010 23:07:51 GMT

Where is John Boehner getting his data that reveals the majority of the American people are opposed to health care reform?

Well, let's see...

From yesterday's Whitehouse press briefing:

"Q And as a follow on that, I understand he's going to be on FOX News, talking about health care reform. And the administration's tussles with FOX News are well known, so can you talk to us a little bit about why he's going on FOX now and what he thinks he can accomplish by reaching out to their audience in particular?

MR. GIBBS: Obviously they have a pretty big audience share and I think it's safe to say that a lot of members that are undecided are going to be -- they watch and their constituents watch this news. So we're happy to continue the argument on why health care reform is important to pass this year on FOX.

Q Does he really think he's going to change the minds of FOX viewers, many of whom I suspect are opposed?"

Hmmm...okay. FOX has a "pretty big audience share" and many of the FOX viewers "are opposed" to the healthcare bill.

Maybe the American people aren't quite as supportive of the bill(s) as Libby Shaw thinks they are.

Sorry, I don't "debate"...

txag007 — Wed, 17 Mar 2010 22:47:25 GMT

Sorry, I don't "debate" with folks who consider Ann, Rush and Glenn credible sources of information.

Go back and read this: http://www.texaskaos.com/showC...

I brought up Cato, Ann, Rush, Heritage, and conservatives like Jonah Goldberg not to reinforce the points they make (or their credibility). I brought them up as sources to prove incorrect a point you made, namely that "when W. did it Republicans, conservatives and libertarians were AOK and totally cool with racking up the deficit." As you can see, conservatives and libertarians were, in fact, critical of Bush's spending. Therefore, it is not inconsistent or hypocritical that conservatives and libertarians are critical of the Obama deficit.

But that's not really the subject of this diary. My response to this diary raised specific problems with the current healthcare bill without mentioning, referencing or in any way relying on Ann, Rush, or Glenn. That being said, apparently the answer to my earlier question about whether or not you understand the bill(s) well enough to hold a discussion about it is no.

Sorry, I don't "debate" with folks

Libby Shaw — Wed, 17 Mar 2010 18:28:13 GMT

who consider Ann, Rush and Glenn credible sources of information.

Re: So, what else...

txag007 — Wed, 17 Mar 2010 17:28:57 GMT

You responded to my comment, but nothing in your reply addressed anything I said in direct reply to your diary. There are legitimate problems with this healthcare bill. Do you not understand the bill well enough to comment on these concerns?

So, what else did Ann, Rush and Glenn

Libby Shaw — Wed, 17 Mar 2010 15:02:24 GMT

have to say today?
Where polls are concerned all incumbents are in danger. This includes the party of obstruction, no, and hypocrisy.

As far as abortion coverage is concerned until recently the RNC itself had health coverage that included abortions. I am sure a lot of Republicans women screamed behind closed door when they learned it had been pulled. And the only reason the RNC pulled it was b/c of course Republicans can't be exposed for yet another act of shameful hypocrisy.

Hypocrisy continues to pervade the GOP where abortion is concerned. Why don't you do some exhaustive research and find out how many Republican women including the wives and daughters of male lawmakers who oppose abortion have had abortions themselves. I think you would be a bit stunned. And if abortion were illegal here most would fly off to countries where it is legal.

Republicans like to say one thing in public but they do quite the opposite privately. That, my friend, is a known fact.

After Louie did his grandstanding outside he likely had a meeting inside with a bunch of health care lobbyists who slapped his back and congratulated him for his stunt.

The reason I ask over and over why you folks vote for politicians who have no regard for you is because the RNC has been openly exposed for trashing its donors and members. I guess you missed that piece of news. But of course FOX, Glenn, Ann and Rush would not want to talk about that, now, would they?

In which category of Republican do you fall?

Visceral giving. Those to manipulate and scare.

The most unusual section of the presentation is a set of six slides headed "RNC Marketing 101." The presentation divides fundraising into two traditional categories, direct marketing and major donors, and lays out the details of how to approach each group.
The small donors who are the targets of direct marketing are described under the heading "Visceral Giving." Their motivations are listed as "fear;" "Extreme negative feelings toward existing Administration;" and "Reactionary."

Appealing to deep pocketed fat cats. Whose butts to kiss and how.

Major donors, by contrast, are treated in a column headed "Calculated Giving."
Their motivations include: "Peer to Peer Pressure"; "access"; and "Ego-Driven."

Re: Demons...

txag007 — Wed, 17 Mar 2010 04:12:33 GMT

Too bad most do not understand that they will actually benefit from health care reform legislation.

Methinks it's Libby Shaw who doesn't understand the full impact of the bill(s) currently being considered. Follow me below.

U.S. Rep. Gohmert is the one who is doing the misleading. He lied to the group of teabaggers, insisting that $700 million would be appropriated for abortions...I guess Louie Gohmert cut work on the day the Stupak (anti-abortion)Amendment passed in the House.

Apparently Ms. Shaw does not understand that the House Bill is virtually dead, and the Senate Bill and Obama's Bill both contain language that provides federal funding for abortion procedures.

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Heal...
http://www.wrtl.org/resources/...

It is also obvious Gohmert has not read or he fails to understand the bill.

It's obvious Ms. Shaw does not understand the bill(s), or its impacts, for if it passes...

"More than 29 percent (29.2) percent of the nearly 1,200 doctors who responded to the survey (by the New England Journal of Medicince) said they would quit the profession or retire early if health reform legislation becomes law. If a public option were included in the legislation, as several liberal Senators have indicated they would like, the number would jump to 45.7 percent."
http://www.cnsnews.com/news/ar...

What is that going to do to healthcare costs and availability?

I am sure Louie Gohmert, John Cornyn, Kay Bailey Hutchison and in my case, John Culberson, will enjoy spending the next two decades explaining why they were dead set against health care reform. One would have thought Republicans had learned their lesson when hugely popular legislation such as civil rights, social security and medicare passed. I guess when a political party works exclusively for fat cat it must be hard to grasp the real needs of the people. It also seriously underestimates the people's will.

Speaking of the People's Will:

"According to a 2008 Zogby poll, 71 percent of Americans do not want to pay for abortion nor have their employers provide health care that pays for abortion...In an April 2009 survey by The Polling Company/WomanTrend, 87 percent of adults felt 'it is important to make sure that healthcare professionals in America are not forced to participate in procedures and practices to which they have moral objections.' Further, 95 percent of 2,865 faith-based health care professionals said, 'I would rather stop practicing medicine altogether than be forced to violate my conscience.'"
http://spectator.org/archives/...

And by the way, it's off-subject, but I can't let the civil rights comment above go without posting this:

"After all, for 100 years, the Democratic Party showed its tone deafness to the rights of blacks. Democrats opposed the 13th Amendment (freeing the slaves), the 14th Amendment (making ex-slaves citizens) and the 15th Amendment (that, on paper at least, gave blacks the right to vote). Democrats founded the Ku Klux Klan -- some even call it the "terrorist wing of the Democratic Party." And a greater percentage of Republicans than Democrats voted for the Civil Rights Act of 1964. Alabama Gov. George "segregation now, segregation tomorrow, segregation forever" Wallace was a Democrat. Georgia Gov. Lester Maddox, who as a restaurateur, left pick handles hanging on the walls to provide customers recourse in the event an uppity black tried to enter his restaurant. He was a Democrat. Arkansas Gov. Orville Faubus attempted, in 1957, to prevent the integration of Little Rock High School. He was a Democrat. Bull Connor, the commissioner of public safety for Birmingham, Ala., turned water hoses and dogs on civil rights activists. He was a Democrat."
http://millenniumfreedom.org/v...

You would be right about that

Libby Shaw — Wed, 17 Mar 2010 00:58:40 GMT

Louie has a thing for psycho babble. One has to wonder if Louie does this stuff to grab attention or is he in serious need of psychiatric intervention?

One has to wonder.